Lee Carsley's England future no longer looks secure after confusing ...

11 Oct 2024

It felt before this game that the one thing Lee Carsley had to do was to keep the ship afloat. Just guide HMS Carsball through the relatively benign waters of Nations League Group B2 and surely the permanent England manager’s job would be his.

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But over the course of Thursday evening at Wembley the ship ran aground, not once but twice. Suddenly, what felt like a secure future for the England team, a clear course from here to the United States, Canada or Mexico for the World Cup in 2026, does not look quite as certain any more.

First, when England put in a disastrously bad performance, thoroughly outplayed by Greece, flattered by a 2-1 scoreline which should have been far worse. Carsley fielded an experimental system: no recognised striker, too much creative talent. England looked unbalanced, confused and painfully vulnerable whenever they lost the ball.

The second time was after the game, when Carsley gave his press conference. Asked whether England’s defeat might damage his chances of getting appointed permanently, Carsley gave an answer which surprised the room: “I was quite surprised after the last camp, in terms of ‘the job’s mine’ and ‘it’s mine to lose’ and all the rest of it,” Carsley said. “My remit has been clear. I’m doing three camps, there’s three games left and then hopefully I’ll be going back to the under-21s.”

Carsley was asked to clarify his comments more than once and he took half a step back, reiterating that he “would not rule myself in or out” of the process, and insisting that being England manager was “one of the best jobs in the world”. But it was neither a firm statement that he wanted the job, nor that he wanted to fully wash his hands of it.

Carsley watches on as England lose to Greece (Glyn Kirk/AFP via Getty Images)

Maybe Carsley was trying to push back against the assumption that the job was automatically his. Maybe he was trying to say that he was relaxed about the outcome, whether he gets the top job or goes back to leading England Under-21s instead. Maybe he was trying to take the pressure off the FA. But the net result was to leave people with more questions than answers — much like the game we had all just watched.

Coming into the Greece match, the big question was how Carsley would integrate Phil Foden, Jude Bellingham and Cole Palmer into the team that won both games last month without them. This was the conundrum that predecessor Gareth Southgate could never solve, as England failed to get anywhere near the best out of those three at the European Championship this summer. The hope was that Carsley, with his extra level of tactical nous, would be able to fit the pieces together.

England - Figure 2
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The solution, with Harry Kane out injured, was for Bellingham to start up front, with Foden and Palmer in the midfield. Anthony Gordon and Bukayo Saka were on the wings, leaving Declan Rice to do all the legwork in midfield. Here, finally, was an unshackled, unleashed England. Southgate’s handbrake had been ripped from the car and tossed out of the window.

And it was a mess.

England created only one real chance before Bellingham’s late equaliser — Palmer skying a shot from a Bellingham pull-back. Beyond that, it was plenty of possession around the edge of Greece’s penalty area that went nowhere, quite a few crosses to no one in particular and a strong sense that this was no solution at all to England’s problems. The more creativity they had on the pitch, the less they created.

And yet we have all seen England struggle to create chances before. That in itself is nothing new, even with this much firepower in the team. What truly stands out from this game is England’s weakness at the back.

It is difficult to think of a worse England defensive performance in recent memory.

In June 2022, they lost 4-0 to Hungary at Molineux in a Nations League game that saw the crowd turn on Southgate in a bitter, personal way. But that day Southgate chased the game in the second half and England conceded three late goals on the break.

England lost 2-1 to Greece on Thursday night (Julian Finney/Getty Images)

Last night, the whole match felt like that. England were never more vulnerable than when they had the ball. Every time they lost it, Greece broke straight through them. On another day, they would have conceded five or six.

Watching Greece slice through England was to realise that maybe we got carried away last month. It was easy enough to assume that Carsley could take the good bits of the Southgate era — the team ethic, the defensive structure, the solid base — and sprinkle some tactical imagination on top. But here England had a surfeit of tactical imagination and very little else. Carsley had added the icing but lost the cake.

It made you realise that, for all the criticisms thrown at Southgate, there was a reason he had such a consistent record as England manager. Gazball was maybe not to everyone’s taste but England have never been better at calmly negotiating games like this one than under their previous manager.

The tangle Carsley got himself into when talking about the job afterwards was also a situation Southgate would never have found himself in, given his knack of seemingly having a prepared answer for everything, and never starting a sentence unless he knew exactly how he would end it.

The good news is that England have another game on Sunday. HMS Carsball is now heading to Helsinki. This game could just be a bad one-off, a brave gamble that did not work.

If Kane comes through training on Friday and returns to the team, England will have their keystone back to face Finland. If England can get back to the structure they showed in September, there is no reason they cannot finish this Nations League campaign strongly.

But we will need to know what Carsley’s England, at their best, are meant to look like.

Is this a team built on paper or a team built for tournaments? Does Carsley think the problem with England at Euro 2024 was that they were too in awe of their creative stars, or not in awe enough? Does he know a route to winning a trophy that can bypass all of the methodical, functional aspects of the early Southgate era?

These are the pressing questions, even more than whether he actually wants this job or not.

(Top photo: Glyn Kirk/AFP via Getty Images)

Jack Pitt-Brooke is a football journalist for The Athletic based in London. He joined in 2019 after nine years at The Independent.

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